It's interesting to hear about the sternal rub thing, because when I was on placement with the ambulance service up here, I was told that sternal rubs had been banned, due to the potential for causing (and the terminology is probably wrong here) ventricular fibrillation, or some other heart related thing. They did tell me about the hand over the head thing though. Must remember some of these to try out on 'unconcious' drunk freshers. M