one of my best memories is of tackling a drunk, aggressive and very violent patient who overcame the security guys and was just about hitting them. good old half nelson vs wall. i've always wondered why most security guys seemed to be trained in the art of not restraining, and hovering around prettily in the background trying to look menacing. the guys in colchester do it good. bang armlocks and kick their knees out. splat to the floor. lovely. :) re-mi