But the thing is, if you eat things that cannot physically be metabolised to fat (eg salad; how much fat is there in a salad, ffs) then you don't GET to that weight. It's like Ricky Gervais said about Rik Waller... once you got to 30 stone, did you not think 'hmm, maybe I'd better stop eating'? Yes, fatty, sugary food is available; that doesn't make it right that people should abuse their own health and put themselves and their carers at risk by getting to 50 stone and then blaming it all on genetics. Genetics may mean you don't eat like a horse and stay thin as a rake; it doesn't predispose you to eating like Michelle McManus (who incidentally went from a size 26 to a 16 by healthy eating and exercise which epitomises the fact that it's not all about genetics, it's about not eating your own body weight in empty calories every week). Claire BMI 24-25 Moderately healthy eater and cake addict