Tom, we in the West Midlands are just balloting on accept reject of new pay deal on A4C and they are cutting base rates or changing job descriptions at will, so I just hope we reject it en mass, but will have to wait and see. the "S" word keeps croping up more and more and the St John have been put on stand by at a national level in case we do. Just you wait till they change your shifts about so you loose your bonus as they can put in new staff working weekends and nights for less money so they will, thus reducing your pay too, but then you would never expect your boss to do things like that, after all, he is only getting a goverment adviser bonus and dare i ask how we might spell knight hood next year ?