I am not trying to defend anything, especially suicide, but ask any coke head, crack whore, heroin addict or alcoholic who's gone clean to stop smoking. They will almost surely tell you that kicking their addiction was much easier than trying to stop feeding the demon known as cigarettes. I've found it takes many smokers many tries over a span of years, sometimes, to totally kick the habbit. The key, so I've heard, is the smoker must want to stop. The desire to stop comes from experiencing enough pain. Sadly, some people do not experience enough pain until they are...dare I say...dead. I've found it best to think of smokers as just being a sick (in the head) friend, and smoking itself as just being a symptom of thier sickness. Thus, I do not mind helping those who try to help themselves. And the others must be left to their own devices. I'm not trying to argue a softer point toward you. It is one thing to slowly kill yourself and a totally different beast to take the helpless and innocent down with you (i.e. children). I'm just curious how many people you have helped to quit smoking by getting angry with them? Hint: Whether you unleash your anger on them or keep it within yourself is not applicable to your answer. Or I could just be blowing smoke. If you figure out how to get poeple to stop for sure, I need to know first. Thanks!