Think you should take a look at this thread! http://randomreality.blogware.com/blog/_archives/2006/7/16/2126486.html#comments If you really want to have a go - then - GO for it - reply to thread! And then check this thread out: http://www.ukriversguidebook.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15886 The world is your oyster! If you like oysters that is. From the Thames it only gets bigger and better: http://www.ukseakayakguidebook.co.uk/short_articles/mckenna.htm http://www.ukseakayakguidebook.co.uk/mckenna_arisaig/art_mckenna_arisaig.htm From little acorns big oak trees grow: http://www.ukseakayakguidebook.co.uk/mckenna_heb_diary/art_heb_diary.htm See you on the river/sea H - x (Helen M)