Hi If we help make ORCON thats a bonus but most of us couldnt give a shit about ORCON bear in mind though ambulance services not meeting ORCON are hardly met with a "there there its ok have some more ambulances" are they ? Can i also say that the other 2 services have their volunteers as do the coastguard and there's that little known organisation the RNLI you may just have heard of! Ask the patient ive been to there have been many if they have even heard of ORCON - probably not but they were glad to see somone quickly who could reassure and treat them. NIKKI