Sorry, forgot to add. What was Bob/Paul on about with "not on work time"? What planet does he live on? So does he not allow people to send personal emails or make personal phone calls, or even chat to collegues! You are normally allowed a break and unless the company is being extremely anal, they shouldn't object to you using the facilities in a resonable way, so long as it doesn't detract from your work, etc, etc.... Maybe he runs a cotten mill :) N