I agree Tom/Brian, still can't work out which one to call you! There are many police officers who are extremely hard working and very good at their jobs. They often manage to defuse situations that could so easily errupt into chaos and violence. However, there seem to be a minority that seem to think it is their job to wind the "accused" up making them have a go at the officers who are then very heavy handed. Its unfortunate but true. A few weeks ago I went to a domestic when i got there I found a police officer having a shall we say heated conversation with a man in cuffs. The officer called him several names (that I wouldn't call my dog) and the prisoner duly replied. I butted in to be politely greeted by the prisoner who explained what had happened...no sign of verbal or physical aggression towards me. All of the officers there were looking at the floor looking thoroughly embarressed, but noone intervened. The banter continued to the point where I had to ask (in the patients interest) that he not interact with the patient (who was actually injured!) Just then a Sgt arrived and told the police officer who had fuelled the situation to get in his car and drive away and quote "We don't need your sort here". It seems amazing that this guy was allowed to act like this, he actually verbally abused the patient and no-one attempted to seperate them. I guess it's a sign of the time? Maybe I'm wrong? Phil