Sensible commenting by both - good to read. I get sick and tired, as well as very upset and hurt, when the mainstream media refer to a "person with mental health issues" and more or less leave it at that.........it just feeds the stereotyping that all of us (I include myself here) with a "mental health issue" are dangerous to the public (oh and also to ourselves of course) and bang, there goes any sense of compassion - so thanks to both of you for a) writing compassionately about someone with evident problems which require, of course, treatment and b) not belittling or demonising the person referred to. Of course, it's extremely tragic (as well as RARE!) for someone with mental health issues to get so far down the line that they kill someone else - but anyone involved in primary or secondary mental health care in the UK will confirm to you that they can only do so much with dwindling resources and when the system fails patients, others needlessly suffer. If the patient kills him or herself and no-one else, well, that's less of a headline grabber than "Schizo knifes pillar-of-community mother of three."...........