Sorry, I'd just also like to say that I didn't intend to be patronising with my last comment. The thing is that this is a case that even psychiatric nurses and consultants would disagree on. (I've seen that before too) So although it's fine for everyone to have their own opinion on it, I really don't think it's something worth falling out over. I suppose none of us are really right or wrong, we just differ in our experiences and opinions.