Hear Hear I was interested in your comment about expectations. I've been talking about the very same thing in a police forum. The public have been sold an idea that ambulances will appear the instant someone has a shiver, there will be a police officer on hand every time little Johnny turns his stereo up a bit too loud and that our lives will be enhanced by having our bins emptied fortnightly instead of weekly. There is a department in every police force that has only one purpose and that is to supply statistical information to the Home Office. If that department were to close tomorrow, it would make not one iota of difference to the level of service that the police provide, but it would instantly starve the Home Officer of the food they need to survive. It's got to be worth a try, but which Chief will be brave enough to be first?