It gets worse. Most of the top 20 presribed drugs commonly prescribed by psychistrists and doctors to the eldlerly in homes have side effects that effect breathing and casue stomach cramps and create intense tiredness. Even if youa re told your relative is not doped you can not be sure that the cocktail of side effects for medicine for what she has does not as a side effect produce a dizzy, dulled intense physical tiredness in your relative as a KNOWN by product. It amkes them easier to looka fter for the home so it doesn`t infefere in their efficient running of what is to all purposes state sanctioned final solution for the eledly in out society where the Mental Health Act and Social Servcies powers allow people to be taken away by their own will taken from their friends and neighbours and community and home and posessions to experience a drug induced stupoour often poor diet in a living room where the tv is never off given often substandard cheap food and told to sit out the rest of their days in a public kind of death row. Unlike you or I many are not allowed to go outside...the view from that window to you and I is one second and with our car keys were down the road. They are stuck there, stupified and at the mercy of some carers. Not all But it only takes a few. I knew one who was such touchy feely and partonisingly happy to everyone and she had this habit of coming up unawares behind old ladies and making them jump out of their skin. Seriously traumatising them as many pre war English ladies wer enot sued to be touched unawares by people. I had a quiet word to her twice.. Nothing doing and complained. No wrong doing was seen. This is the next worst aspect. Fist after powerful drugs that I would like to see a psychaistrict take themselves tos ee the side efffects for themselves before they gave them to weaker bodies. ( i`m telling you THEY would not be able to do their job proeprly or feel so well either ). People put far too much down to people being old and that includes it doesn`t matter so much anyway as they are old.This is wrong. The second worst aspect after the ignorance of prescrbing drugs pushed for profit is the sheer complacency of social services in answer abuse and your concerns. if you get too angry and upset at the intense suffering of your relative from these infallible people as it seems to themselves often.. you may even get a mental health review your door. I know someone who did and they were just upset about their relative in care. These people do not and will not lsiten and they will not move enless you have a good solicitor. if you do not have legal aid then you are going to find quite a bill that is alot for your average working family to pay. Either be rich or be poor with no income. As the middle income and low income bracket is going to hit you hard. And you want a solcitor who has no fear taking on social servcies and the NHS and preferably you want someone outsdie of your county as often the solcitors are too close to many of the people they live and work near. Just a word of advice. There is also a shortage of mental health solicitors. Advocates are there.... and they do care they just don`t have any legal clout.Nothing moves without a dedicated lawyer. Only thing that makes anyone take any notice. Trust me. I have been there. Social servcies and even carers and hoems fail to realise often what someone has lost. amny of the old are not only losing their minds a bit and skills and energy but have lost their home and community, friends, posessions andoften many of these people have been sectioned against their will all in the name of their best interests..You`ll come across that alot... Drugged for their best interests, taken from home against their best interests . All of these people were brought up not to question doctos in an age that had more integrity than now and to trust in NHS fromt he cradle to the grave.. ( This is in the UK ) and never having to pay for health care. To many then it comes as a shock they are charged like £600 a week in care and have their hosued remoraged and all their money taken as their care is run as a business! What is doubly shoicking ehre is that in many of these psychic prisons they calls homes people are paying weekly through the nose to be abused at a scandalous rate a day for pure profit. Like alot of their symptoms and side effects is the result of drug companies also being run for profit. The legal system is stacked in favour of the goivernment and accountants and health care and social servcies ideaology you`ll find makes far too many assumptions with their legal guidelines and liability clauses that their idea of doing god i.e thier duty is to match paramteters where someone is SAFE, warm etc etc... Nowhere does a kind of spiritual wellbeing or anything with regard to happienss follow too much The homenever know what you were like before.... You soon learn to settle in as if you protest too much they WILL and they DO sedate you. Many side effects lead to aloss of appetite as well and a dry mouth. If you do not believe me take a lsit of the top 20 prescribed drugs and look them up on Google for their sideeffects and make a list..... If your relative is on say about 8 drugs... and some may even be anti-psychotic.... then yua dd up the number of pills that add drowsiness and tiredness and breathing difficulties and stocmach cramps as side effects. They`ll tell you your realtvie is not on dope but the combined effect of the mediciens they are on is the same effect as. You KNOW you are being spoken to inj half truths..you know the home is sellingitself t you with it`s great menu and all and " All our ladies are happy here " the mangeress will say until you disciver too late that is actually the mindset of the manager who cannot think any other way other than the fact of idealogical fanticism All her ladies are indeed happy here..... It is prejudice upon assumption. You trust the doctors and you know maybe it is unavoidable or advisable... that you have a relative needing care maybe.. You want the best for your relative..and before you know it...they ahve already sectioned them and drugged them and a few months down the line they are not the same person you knew. Drugs, de skiled, de-individualsied and like sat on public deathrow..with breathing difficulties, dry mouth, stomach cramps and all else... The trauma of leaving home and community and in many cases NOT allowed to visit your old home ever again. ( might even be inthe process of being sold off to pay for your care/abuse. That should be one word. As it is both.Noone gets away without even mild abuse even if that is kind patronmising and neglect as others need help more than you and whatever... You can add my name to the anti-psychiatry movement. the need to train carers better, for a rigorous complaints procedure to be set up in UK social services like they have in the Police and in many other businesses, for the rethinking of Western medicine in general and retesting of drugs and dosages...... Drugs are used out of conveininace in drugginga and stupifying people. Not in making them better. This is a LIE. I urge all people with relatives to get the list of medciation they ar eon and look everythign up on google and for side effects and make a list. You WILL get a shock. I also urge people if they want any chanhge you got to use solcitors as they will not lsiten.Only solcitors can change anything and the only thing medical or social services that egts them scared. same with private homes. Until you get solicitors involved you are just a voice to them. Homes don`t know anyoen from adam.new face in.They don`t know you or your home or your wardrobe, what you did, your friends or nothing. ou arrive... you are person X and you are there to take x pills and y and they ahve your medcial records and keep an eye on you. It`s warm. There`s a tv . it might be nicely decorated and all on the surface looks well and normal. What people forget is that we visotors can look out the window grab out car keys say goodbye... and go. They are legally trapped there. often not able legally to leave the grounds.I have known palces where on Summer days they were not allowed out as they were eaiser to supervise in their chairs. This is not a rule. But abuses do happen and some individuals it is just a day job. Some people are genuine veitable saints of hands on real care with a eprsonal relationship with people which must be seriously emotionally exhausting and then see many of them die. Takes alot of faith and hard work. I applud these people and without them many lives would be alot worse. It is shameful.... few would think many of the drugs create weakened lung lining and weaker tissues and leave people prine to chest infections.it all seems WARM in the home and all else.. and you cannot fault it on the surface notr the doctors..You presume they know what they are all doing. They do not know what theya re doing and least of all they do not know to WHOM they are doing it too.You know your relative better than any of them and I suggest to anyone who feels strongly about things and to immediatly get a solicitor and make a case ebfore it is too late. Social servcies and care DO mess up old peoples lives and not just a fair few..... MANY.... Millions infact... They make far too many assumptions in their ideaology and medication and they fail to understand a generation that was more patient and trusting and had repsect for doctors and the state.... And because of this they are being absued all the more. As the truth come sout over the web and all like it has done for bank charges... it shows you people CAN make a difference. I read someone 1.7million will have dementia inthe UK by 2025 was it? Don`t quote me on that but is is a huge leap inthe demographics in the UK...The Government know this. It is shokcing, No doubt politically it suits the complacne tto sweep mold people out of the way and imprison them so they don`t fall down in your local shops on us and their helaht care can be paid for by the selling of their own homes and all. This is the conspiracy of our age and the real political truth of ourselves and the silenet majority it seems. And it seems to me ALL of us are OK with the drugging of the elderly recued to second class citizens and cut and shut off from society and havign their rights taken away in many cases by mental health law ans their homes seized as WE and we are all guilty don`t do anything about this. We prefer them to pay than us. We as a society must want them put away on public death row camps for their 2best interests" and we just hope it`s OK and that they are ok and not drugged p too much and reasonably OK and happy. This reflects on us as a society. MAny of these people ahve no choice. They have to go to a home. They ahve to go to a certain home with thier condition and they have to pay for it. End of. And the price is what is is £100 a day or not far off.. It`s the one thing in the UK in the 21st C that reminds me of Nazi`s and the Communists. I draw a serious parallel... and many of these people especially the oens abandoned by their relatives or without any relatives in some places where they know no relatives come in to visit them are even more vunerbale and open to abuse. Noone to check their medcial dose. Noone to visit, no pressure on service as noone is going to ask about you......... OK if you land in a good place and all..... But if not.... and you are traumatised by your experience and drugs and entrappment and condition and all else then there is noone to help you.......You will literally be a dizzy , doped, dry mouthed, side effect ridden, struggling mass of tired limbs waiting to die with a surface level of normality and care.... But you leanredf long ago that noone treats you very much as you any more and your self identiy went with your cdeclinging cognition and your dignity and self worth and much else as it was slowly eroded away from you from the first day you went away.. whether that was hospital first, rehab or eventual care... It is a slow process and few relatives can see it...... You got to be there 6,7 days a week and sometimes more than once a day and dtay for many hours to see it...... and one day you suddenly KNOW that your relatives condition has got worse and they are far less themselves..They will all say it is Alzheimers or something else and you do not fully understand... thye know everythign remeber They REALLY care they are the carers... you know nothing...... but you know... you know inside they have and are slowly killing them off cleanly in adrugged stuppour and there is nothign you can do about it and you wish you got that solcitor day one when they took them away. Care is a dififcult issue.I know it is. Some people are bette roff and happy in care but many are not. And social servcies treats allthe same with the ideaology that everyone is the same and they are not. People..have very diffierent needs and what really matters in some peoples lives and is needed ro them to be happy is ignored and the increasing of dosages and all for people and the cocktail of drugs they are put on is scandal in itself. Look it up yourself.... The number of drugs that produce breathing difficulties, dizziness and stomach cramps .... It is licensed social control of the elderly for profit..... their hoems taken as we promised to pay for their health care but changed our mind and decided politcally we didn`t really care enough to want to pay extra taxes ourselves for it. That`s the truth of it. We should all be ashamed. Seems we don`t really care enough to change the real suffering people go through. The govt. goes to such lengths to ignore your complaints off record they force you to pay for a solcitor.... You must pay out real money to make changes happen. I urge everyone to protest really..... As this is a wrongness..... Hopefully when enough people cry out about it and more and more concerns are raised on the web not just about the drugs people are forced to take but the entire procedure of decision making and stripping of peoples rights and property and all... It is the final solution for the aged...... And it is the Western society`s answer.... Maybe it would not be so bad if they were all given soma tablets and happy pills. It is just in my experience..the drugs they are given make their lives ALOT worse. Not better. And this is the one area of fact and medcine that people could start to change right now. Without costing the state any more money but saving it money. Drug companies are too powerful. And the side effects too strong. The prescribe far too much with doping consequences.It is a silent conspiracy for profit and they are not bothered if x % develop more severe breathing difficulties and side effects than other are die prematurely with their drug cocktails. Shame indeed. It is a CRIME of the 21st C and in 200 years time s we shall look back and see it as the barbaric primitivisma nd stupid ignorance alot of it is. It is unfounded the science and the money pressures and profit motive and social service idealogy the second rate training... There is ALOT that is immoral and just plain obviously wrong to decent people. More people should protest till the Govt gets the message and peoples lives start to improve and complaints and legal cases go through the roof. Again. I urge everyone to write about it, talk about, go to the press, publish, contact solictiros wirte to thier MP and cause as much trouble as possible! You need to be as relentlessly persistently proactive as the combined social servcies machine is to get anywhere at all!! The battle of the ONE v the MANY is always worth fighting.. The one individual in care or you yourself on their behalf to make changes... and the more people doing this nationwide the better for the aged and their conditions. Drugs are a round the clock side effect.... every hour of every day effecting peoples mind and limbs and breathing and all.It`s an evil we could do without. The psychaitrist and doctors should know better..... they do not. The drug companies LIE. I request any psychitrists concerned about this to research more and do what they can and even treat themselves as ahuman Guinea pig ( I would if Iw as a psychiatrist ) then take it to the press. People might then take some notice. The side effects of drugs given to old people cause them more suffering than good in MANY cases.That is my line and I`m sticking to it. And there is much else wrong with the system..Write and protest and take them to court!! That is what freedom is for.Individual rights and change and justice for all! Especially the vunerable. They ahave a wrong headed ideaology.It is about time greater numbers of people started to put these so called experts into a state of self doubt. They after all are in power and meant to be serving us. Power without awareness and when not listening to other peoples real concerns is a form of corruption. When it flies in the face of scintific fact, objective observation and the will of the people as a whole it is a kind of ideaological dictatorship... it is and one being run by profit and conveiniance for doping people in homes.It`s WRONG. And it should be stopped. The facts are there.even the breathing difficulties and reactions in many residents. I JUST URGE PEOPLE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.... ON MASS... as this is something that we can and should be able to change ......just the sooner the better for people on the reciving end of it. Prof Sir Harvey Crichton Fellow of the Royal Institute of Philosophy