I work in Local Government- we have not had our annual pay insult yet- but i doubt we will fair any better. What really got my goat was the governments justification- that those that get spine points do get a payrise above inflation, because of the spine point. WELL as spine points till and employee reaches "max pay" is part of the top of our terms and conditions. Those staff at the top of the pay scale for their job are by definition the most ecperianced and "loyal". Those staff will only get the below inflation pay offer. As usual Pblic sector pay drags behind others, and for the joy of working in the public sector we have to take a low pay settlement for that. Many of us are abused by the public- in fact i was assaulted for doing my job last year- and the public sector and still we have to make sacrifices "for the good of the economy". Rant over.