What does make me go 'ouch' and 'eewgh' isn't degloving or sights such as that, but the insult of Agenda 4 Change bandings for us Technicians and Paramedics. Actually thinking about it there is another thing that makes me wanna heave and make embarssing noises, and that's the smells that come during and after birth - no not from me or my crewmate. I think I'd much rather be sniffing male public toilets at that particular time! Nice to hear from you again - it's been a while