Nick, At the marathon SJA and LAS work extremely closely - there is actually a joint control room I believe, and 999 calls in the area around the route can be referred to volunteer crews. But the bad feeling between the VAS and statutory service happens for the same reasons it happens everywhere. One little thing, and long memories. More recently, LAS staff had reason to dislike SJA as SJA tendered for PTS work and were able to undercut the LAS. The net result was fewer overtime shifts for LAS crews, and hence a certain unwillingness amongst some LAS personnel to volunteer their time training SJA volunteers. It doesn't help that in London, SJA's PTS employees and volunteers wear the same uniform. All we as volunteers can do is perform our role in an exemplary manner and co-operate with paid NHS staff to help them forget our organisations's past indiscretions.