Didn't even notice the typo, must have been tired reading it too! Two points, one about Tom's post, it is hard to find out what peoples disability is at that point, I can never quite work it out myself, and its not fair on the patient to ask the carer either is it. One day I will find a tactful way of asking I am sure, for now I just continue to bumble through. As for the care staff travelling it must be a good centre, most of the places I go too never send someone, even if we are telling them that they have no choice, they still come up with excuses about staffing levels, I usually come back with putting themselves in that situation, it works from time to time. As for the removal of large people from premises, whether it be medical reasons or personal, people really don't understand what it takes, they call us for help, but expect us to be able to magically move people. I know of someone who had to be removed by a light rescue team from trumpton along with several members of the ambo service. Its not that we want to take the time to remove them from a property, the last thing we want is to spend hours on end trying to get someone to hospital. With that case, obviously we don't have all of the facts, so its difficult to comment, I don't like to comment on jobs that my colleagues do most of the time, only because you act on what you see, hindsight is a wonderful thing, but unfair on those who have had to make the decision on the ground there and then.