I don't think that it's people saying that only non-English cultures have hidden abuse (I know that it's not what I meant when I wrote the post), just that I think it is easier to spot if you share the same cultural values. That and, in the case of honour killing I don't think that there would be the same amount of people willing to 'cover' for the crime within UK culture. That and some cultures find things acceptable that UK culture wouldn't find acceptable. I remember seeing a programme on the treatment of women in Islamic cultures, where being allowed to beat your wife (as long as it didn't leave a mark on her face or somesuch) is perfectly acceptable, this from a leading Islamic scholar. In the UK that behaviour is illegal. This in my view means that UK culture has a better view of women, not as property but as equal citizens. ...And Muslims have a better view on alcohol. Like many things, it's swings and roundabouts.