I'm looking forward to seeing how well 30:1 has done compared to 15:1 or even 5:1. I'm not too sure that 30:1 isn't enough to tire you - I know I'm bleedin' knackered when I finish - that and my back seizes up after the first cycle... I don't think that the eight minute target is bad - just that it is concentrated on to the exclusion of other things. See my 'draft proposal' post, where the ORCON target remains, but other things are more, or just as, important.