Different thing entirely. Giving birth is painful but not pathological. Many perfectly sensible, normal women give birth without epidurals etc and it has nothing to do with being 'weird' or 'against drugs'. It has to do with trusting in the process and having effective coping strategies. And midwives aren't against pain relief, but that's all very well saying that to someone who we know is too late for an epidural- but they won't believe you till it's over!