OT question for people reading the comments 'til the next post, esp. those who are familiar with street drinkers: do you consider K Cider (which I remember being sold as the "posh" cider, in black bottles, in the 90's) as tramp juice? It's the same ABV as White Lightning & the other plonks du tramp, and the cans (I haven't seen it in bottles for years now) are the regular 500ml for 99p, so I'm just wondering if it's generally considered as an okay drink for (non-tramp) cider-drinkers?