Just Words....... by the sounds of your account, they are totally the opposite to that. I have only ever been to three "proper" suicide attempts. Two of which had been successful the other left me thinking, like I assume you are, for days as to why and how some people just seem to fall through the system (whether that be through their own choice or not) that is meant to be there to help them. We need to be able to do more for these people, but unfortunately some of them only ever appear on our radar when its either too late or just too far gone down the line. I have no suggestions as to how we can fix the problem, I just hope that somewhere someone who is contemplating taking their own life reads this and realises that sometimes it isn't the only option available. I also hope that those out there who use this option as a cry for help realise that we can be of assistance to them (and indeed the police) before it gets to the stage where they may cause unrepairable harm to themselves, and of course those people who do care for them (even if they are not showing it at the time) Or maybe I am just being naive.