Hi I certainly wasn't aiming anything at you directly or indirectly for that matter, I thought your comment was very well written and raised some excellent challenges to stereotypical views people have about things. | For those of us in the helping professions we have to suspend personal beliefs for professional values, this is the thrust of Tom's blogentry for me. I would write more and be more considered but I have to see a servce user now and I don't want to be late for her :-) Regards