tom i am with you all the way, (actually when i saw your comment on the twitter feed i was hoping you would blog this) the problem is simple, the govertment have scared parents in to lacking action, and giving people too many rights. my view bring back the cane... and im one of the lucky youngens that came after it! in a second point, im a member of a tribe, a member of a "gang" im often found with a knife on my belt or in my pocket... im a scout leader. I have yet to hear a single scout that has been arrested or stabbed or stabbed any one.. and with 60 thousend in the UK i would think the percentages say there should have been one?