Tom, I'd be interested to know what your thoughts would be on my previous presentations (many many years ago). a) 40 paracetamol, 70 aspirin, after 5 hours I got scared and walked to the A&E. No follow-up from mental health professionals. Tinitus for several days. b) About a year later - 116 aspirin. After (I think) 7 hours I got scared again and called an ambulance. Psych outpatient for a few months. The interesting thing here which I've always wondered about : they injected something into the (arteries/veins?) in my groin using a 50cc syringe which seemed to have a long thin rubber tube involved somehow. I think my blood pressure was low at the time (i.e., press on fingers / nail bed, and they'd stay white). c) A few years later. Large o/d of illegal stimulant I'm not going to identify. Woke up the next day extremely weak (unable to stand), mild hallucinations for a few days, much physical damage to furniture etc, blood everywhere, extreme heart rate. Ambulance driver said 'it couldn't be ----, you'd be dead if it was'. Psych inpatient for a period, outpatient for a few months. This was all a long time ago. But for a couple of decades I've been wondering what it was which they injected, and why they groin rather than somewhere more normal!...