Mind you you'd think that the areas of britain that do have snow more regularly would be prepared to a smalld egree. hahahahhahaa...hahahahaha....hahahahaha! Yeah right! here i work in a rural bit of our lovely isles and do we have 4x4s? do we fk! i asked the CEO and he assure me they would be on order and then that they were on order. I have since heard that the order was cancelled because they were too expensive. Yet it is cost-effective to have a fleet that can not go across half the terrain on our area? ye gods! give me strength. Whilst studded tyres and chains must not operate on ordinary road surfaces 4x4 vehicles can (see chelsea tractors to back-up that comment) Never mind that one of the greatest 4x4 vehicles to ever come in to existence started life in this country. Thank goodness St John's (? st andrew's too?) have more foresight! Glad you're in one piece anyway, TR!! :0)