Thank you - that's more or less what the guys on the ambulance said. I think we are so blessed to have people like you around! xx Going back to the issue of self-inflicted damage through alcohol and drugs, if people are rich enough to get slaughtered in this way in the first place, perhaps the NHS Trusts should levy a charge on them for the use of the noisy white/yellow/green cabs with the pretty flashing lights on top? It really does make me cross that there seems to be no accountability or responsiblity expected of these people particularly. When I was a youngster of the age I see many decorating the pavements at the weekend, although we drank socially, I think I could count on the fingers of one hand the number of times one of my friends got themselves so badly drunk they needed attention. And not use all of the fingers, either. How did we get ourselves into this sort of culture? Cleaning out the ambos wouldn't be a bad start....