" am curious what sort of "details" you'd need to justify shoving someone around" O.K. I have met quite a few women capable of giving a man a good"shoving around" often accompanied by a stream of abuse and the challenge "go on hit me". What does a man do in that sort of situation? A few years ago there was an incident on camera where a young woman reputed to be only seven stone resisted arrest and it took five police officers to arrest her and the inevitable response of "police brutality"was trotted out by people with the same idea that all women are inevitably victims of violent nasty men. When they were told that controlling someone in this type of situation was`nt at all easy without some use of violence they just could`nt or did`nt want to get it. I`m not saying for one minute that this young woman was aggressive and deserved a" push" yes a push.no evidence of injury remember,but a silly knee jerk reaction like some of these does`nt help getting to the truth.