I know that we've been here before but the truth is that this isn't about targets and it isn't about single responders and it isn't even about Health and Safety. The problem is that society has now "evolved" in such a way that the emergency services are no longer safe when responding to calls. Society means all of us, be us ambulance staff, teenagers, pensioners and everyone in between, we all need to change our behaviours and reflect on what we deem as acceptable. In the mean time there will be casualties, they may be Paramedics shot at, or patients put in harms way waiting for "safety" to be assured. However the responsibility lies with us all, still I guess that's not a concept that sits will with journalists and the public at large. DSO