i know where you are coming from i work in manchester under the new and improved name NWAS at best yesterday we hit a measly 38% of targets WHO CARES what bothered me most was the fact i was turning up to Open Tib and Fib Fractures that had been waiting more than an hour lay in the snow (70 year old) which had been coded at best amber when people who had a slight sniffle SOB got a red and then the family would say they would follow in the car HOW ABOUT TAKE THEM IN THE CAR when will management see that the population figures they have are from about 15 years ago and are in no way current what would also be nice is to see managment ON THE ROAD