Green Fairy and Ben - For Christ's sake stop reading the Grauniad and get a life. GF - What constitutes a 'silly' amount of metal stuck through someone's face is obviously a matter of opinion. Reynolds is NOT a reactionary old fart like me, and if he says it's 'silly' (as a medical professional) you can assume that Lee looked not unlike this guy.. http://unix.rulez.org/%7Ecalver/pictures/piercing_02.jpg Ben - Wake up and smell the capuccino. Try to remember that not all tossers are victims, and many victims are tossers.